TheStarTurtle

I found Rogue One to be... alright. I agree it had its flaws, and the biggest one for me was the characterization, or rather, the lack thereof. I didn't care about ANY of them. I know that it makes sense they don't survive in the end because they're not around in the future films, but even so, a little more would've made them more meaningful in my opinion. I didn't care for Jyn or Gaelin or Saw or any of them, not in the least bit. The droid and the pilot were the two I liked the most, and the blind guy, even though I can't remember their names and they still didn't have a whole lot to them. It's not my favorite Star Wars movie, but it's not terrible in my opinion. Just... lacking.

Jyn grew less intolerable as the film went on, but when it was over, I said "She's no Rey." I also agree on what you said about character development lacking.

I'm still waiting for the ultimate Star Wars space battle movie movie where the tactical military side of the universe takes center stage.

I still have yet to see the movie, but thanks to spoilers being everywhere online, I already know how the movie plays out, and I wasn't impressed. Frankly, when I heard that nearly half the movie had to be reshot, I knew it wasn't a good sign, but considering who Disney chose to be the director, I wasn't surprised. The fact all the best scenes of the trailer didn't make it into the movie was the final straw, so I didn't go see it. And considering the only aspect of Star Wars that I give a damn about are the Jedi and Sith, I couldn't care less about a movie that doesn't feature either (yeah, I have no interest in a movie devoted entirely to the tactical military aspect of the universe either). No, a scene with Vader kicking all kinds of ass isn't enough, although it's a welcome treat, if only to bleach away the fact the last we saw him on screen, was him crying out "NNNOOOOOO!" If there isn't a Jedi Knight there to oppose him, I don't care.

That being said, I'm looking forward to the trailer reveal for "The Last Jedi", because I'm fully invested in the story of Rey and Old Man Luke, even if Rey's introduction into the franchise and her use of the Force was just one big JJ Abrams Mystery Box gimmick.

I gotta say, I think all the most interesting Jedi/Sith/Force stuff has already been seen in the old EU and the KOTOR games. Anywhere the new movies go with that will probably have already been done before and done better. Still holding out a bit a hope for Thrawn being a major player but I think we would have heard something by now if that was the case.

And Mike, if somebody actually DOES make a tactical space battle movie some day (remember that no one has yet unless you count the Wing Commander movie which none of us do). whether it be Star Wars or another franchise, and it turns out to be a damn good movie you might be pleasantly surprised. Hell, I had absolutely no interest in racing movies (even Fast Furious) until I saw Rush, and it's one of my favorite films now.


MikeBrooklyn

I gotta say, I think all the most interesting Jedi/Sith/Force stuff has already been seen in the old EU and the KOTOR games. Anywhere the new movies go with that will probably have already been done before and done better. Still holding out a bit a hope for Thrawn being a major player but I think we would have heard something by now if that was the case.

And Mike, if somebody actually DOES make a tactical space battle movie some day (remember that no one has yet unless you count the Wing Commander movie which none of us do). whether it be Star Wars or another franchise, and it turns out to be a damn good movie you might be pleasantly surprised. Hell, I had absolutely no interest in racing movies (even Fast Furious) until I saw Rush, and it's one of my favorite films now.

True, however, Disney decided all that EU and KOTOR isn't canon. Now it's just glorified fan fiction. Which is a pity, because if anything, the Thrawn Trilogy should have been the official Episodes 7, 8, and 9, and should have been made instead of the prequels, but that's also the stuff of fan fiction.

As for the whole space battle movie thing, I'm sure it will happen someday, and people who are into that sort of thing will love it. I just won't be one of them. As for racing movies, I don't even like cars, much less driving, so any such movie has no appeal to me. Hell, the only good parts of the Fast and Furious movies are whenever the female leads are in bikinis, as far as I'm concerned. But hey, there are die hard car fans out there, and by all means, let them enjoy their movies. I simply couldn't care less.

Who the hell is"Thrawn"?

  ??? You're kidding, right? Get this series of books in front of your eyes ASAP!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrawn_trilogyJessica Chastain for Mara Jade, Jessica Chastain for Mara Jade. Please, please, please! (Wishful thinking, I know).


TheStarTurtle

??? You're kidding, right? Get this series of books in front of your eyes ASAP!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrawn_trilogyJessica Chastain for Mara Jade, Jessica Chastain for Mara Jade. Please, please, please! (Wishful thinking, I know).

Well put. Seriously though, I really do think you'd enjoy Rush. It's as much a character movie as it is a racing/sports movie. You'll find that Thor actually has some range as an actor and become EVEN MORE disappointed that Baron Zemo was so underused in Civil War. If you enjoyed  fighting sports dramas like Rocky or The Fighter or Warrior it's the same kind of thing but with cars instead of fists (unless you DIDN'T enjoy those) and there's a bit of eye candy throughout as well. Alexandra Maria Lara (that's quite the name) and Natalie Dormer both get naked though Olivia Wilde sadly does not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzNbGH1oZJc


TheStarTurtle

I've got good news, and more good news.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_lego_batman_moviehttps://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/john_wick_chapter_2/

We knew the Lego Movie was probably doing to do well. I'm happy about John Wick 2 as well, we need more R-rated action movies in theaters.


MikeBrooklyn

Noomi Rapace as a Rule 63 Jason Bourne? Yes, please!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQS2DuDExQY


MikeBrooklyn

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-batman-ben-affleck-director-no-more-the-dark-knight-a7580116.html

More videos on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np66GX-T8u8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0rYY7sRleEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rowm6DsI51Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkHQrppfyiIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4_26hTXYkoMy thoughts if Affleck leaves: Bye Felicia! Seriously, I don't get these people who claim "He was the best live action Batman ever!" Why?! Because he fought like Batman does in the Arkham games? That's not a high standard to go by. I thought most of the time, he looked like a shaved gorilla with the Batman costume painted onto him. And his Batvoice was just as bad and laughable at times as Christian Bale's.

As for the DCEU as whole. It's time to hit that reset button if WW and JL fail. Unless WB likes being compared to Michael Bay's Transformers. Such, the movies make money, but they are considered unwatchable garbage that only die-hard fans will see, and others like to watch for ironic reasons.


TheStarTurtle

As for the DCEU as whole. It's time to hit that reset button if WW and JL fail. Unless WB likes being compared to Michael Bay's Transformers. Such, the movies make money, but they are considered unwatchable garbage that only die-hard fans will see, and others like to watch for ironic reasons.

As long as they make money, WB aint gunna give any more a shit than Paramount or Dreamworks.


MikeBrooklyn

1. I knew the "Bye Felicia" comment would get people's attention, which is why I used it.

2. I'm just repeating what I have seen online from people who loved the movie. And what I have seen are people ranting on and on about how "At last, we got to see Batman fighting like how he's supposed to! Greatest Batman actor, ever!" Again, claiming Affleck is the best actor to don the cape and cowl based solely on fight choreography isn't the best measuring stick to go by. I mean by their logic, just because Dwayne Johnson does the Rock Bottom move in a movie, that makes it the best movie he has starred in.

3. Agreed. The DCEU movies are making money, but not the Avatar or MCU kind of money that they want, ie. a billion dollars or more. They thought both Man of Sh*t (er, I mean Steel) and Yawn of Justice were going to get a billion or more worldwide, and in both cases, they fell short, and were savaged by critics.

4. I really don't blame Affleck for wanting out of the series. Look at everything he's been through in the past three years. An online campaign for him to  never play the Batman role for 200 years, the Sad Affleck meme, his non-DC movies being ripped apart by critics and bombing at the box office, everyone praising the animated Lego Batman movie for being better than the live action DC movies, and Justice League already being called "an incoherent mess" before even being released. I would call it quits if I had to deal with all of that, too. Hell, I was at Best Buy today, and they had the scene in Yawn of Justice of the DC Trinity fighting Doomsday on a continuous loop, and all it did was remind how bad the movie was. Yeah, it's pretty to look at, but the story is laughable, Cavill is the worst Superman EVER, Dark Knight Returns just doesn't work in live action, and Eisenberg's Luthor is unintentionally hilarious. Sure, Gal Gadot is nice as Wonder Woman, but I think that's because outside of Linda Carter, we don't have an iconic standard of WW in live action, while Cavill and Affleck are doomed to stay in the shadows of Christopher Reeve, Michael Keaton, and Christian Bale. No wonder it's up for eight Razzie Awards.

Okay, end of rant.

PS: Happy 14000th post to me!  :D


MikeBrooklyn

Yeah, this doesn't sound good for the franchise. MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD! (Although it pretty much sounds exactly like what you imagined the plot would be. Also, it sounds like Snyder's DNA is all over it.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7huknx0kbU


ppfd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8I honestly shrugged my shoulders and went, "Meh".

I hate how they're pretty much not even acknowledging "Prometheus" so far in the marketing. I liked it more than a lot of people, but felt it had surely enough solid ideas that would improve its reputation with a sequel or two. Definitely not digging Katherine Waterston's lesbian 'do, either.  :P


Sodo

You guys and your short hair hate. :P


Sodo

Of course. No worries, I am just teasing is all.


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